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BULLET 31-03-2009 04:07 PM

il nuovo test-booster della S.A.N.
 
SAN MYOTEST

90 Capsules
Supplement Facts
Serving Size3Capsule()
Servings Per Container30

Amount Per Serving % Daily Value**

Zinc (As Zinc Monomethionine) 6mg 40%

LH-Boosting, Pro-Sexual & CYP-450 Mediated Support Matrix: 600mg †
(Quercetin-96%, Epimedium Standardized For 30% Icariins, Cnidium Monnieri Standardized For 40% Osthole)

Aromatase Eradicator & Testosterone Trigger: 490mg †
(Resveratrol-45%, Indole-3-Carbinol, Bioperine®, Zinc Monomethionine)

SHBG Blocking & Free Test Amplifier: 300mg †
(3,4-Divanillyltetrahydrofuran 97% [Urtica Dioica])

** Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet
† Daily Value not established

LiborioAsahi 31-03-2009 10:05 PM

Bè su questo non dicono nulla gli intenditori!?
Io non me ne intendo molto, ma sembrerebbe interessante.
Cosè che non è notificato delle sue componenti?

gian90 31-03-2009 10:22 PM

Sembra buono...
forse sfiora la dose di zinco, di non notificato c'e' l'icarin, il divanil, l'Indole-3-Carbinol che è l'elemento "buono" dei broccoli...gli altri non gli conosco e molto probabilmente non sono notificati neppure quelli

greatescape 01-04-2009 01:52 AM

prodotto potenzialmente buono con componenti che sono molto in voga adesso
naturalmente molti di voi non hanno letto bene l'etichetta data che sono 6 al gg da prendere in 2 dosi
il prodotto costicchia dato che di solito con i test booster consigliano 2 mesi le case cmq anche con un mese non e' regalato

secondo me questo prodotto e' nato prendendo dei componenti da activate xtreme e stoked (che a questo punto sono meglio loro 2)

riporto le caratteristiche degli ingredienti

cmq il prodotto non e' male ma il dosaggio e' da rivedere quindi fate voi :)

S.A.N. MyoTEST :: Anabolic Amplifier :: Formula Rationale


The object of this astonishing invention is to provide an effective non-hormonal supplement that aids to the strength and stamina of its user. The preferred embodiments comprise of: 3, 4-Divanillyltetrahydrofuran, Icariin, Indole-3-Carbinol, Cnidium Monnier, Resveratrol, Quercetin & Piperine. A short synopsis of each ingredient and the rationale for its inclusion are hereby included forthwith:


3, 4- Divanillyltetrahydrofuran (Stinging Nettle Root)

Science tells us that only 2% of the bodies total testosterone supply is actually free and unbound (active). In order to fully reap the benefits of testosterone we need to harness as much ?unbound? testosterone from binding proteins as humanly possible. The two proteins we are talking about are known as ?albumin? and ?serum hormone binding globulin,? or SHBG for short. Meet 3, 4-Divanyl. By employing an exclusive extraction technology, SAN is able to harness a large percentage over 97% of this lignan (ordinarily, only 1% is contained). One exciting part of 3, 4-Divanyl is that it has been scientifically demonstrated to bind to SHBG, and, in turn, occupies the parking space which otherwise bounds itself to testosterone rendering it useless. The end result is increased levels of test which manifests itself by dramatically enhancing strength and mood; and, thereby radically altering body composition. Another favorable mechanism of 3, 4-Divanyl which was recently discovered is nothing short of amazing. By stimulating a second messenger in nitric oxide synthase, 3, 4-Divanyl triggers vital pathways involved in muscle cell proliferation by positively affecting insulin sensitivity and, thus, enhancing the famous ?muscular pump? & Nutrient Delivery during exercise.


Icariin (Epimedium)

Icariin, a flavonol glycoside, is a very interesting substance, which is commonly found in a plant known as Epimedium?aka Horny Goat Weed. Used for centuries in Chinese herbal medicine, Icariin is often prescribed as a natural resource in treating (ED) erectile dysfunction. Its chief mechanism has been demonstrated to act on phosphodiesterase type 5 (PDE5) and to enhance the production of nitric oxide as well as mimicking the effects of testosterone. It also shows great promise as an anti-oxidant as well as to stimulate osteoblasts which can positively affect bone tissue. Similar to 3, 4-Divanyl, Icariin prolongs the muscular pump during exercise therefore increasing blood flow to muscle and penile tissue which are otherwise inhibited by PDE5, the gate keeper of cGMP (guanosine monophosphate).


Indole-3-Carbinol (I3C)

I3C is produced by the breakdown of the glucosinolate glycobrassin which can be found in high concentrations of cruciferous vegetables such as broccoli and cauliflower. I3C is the subject of ongoing biomedical research into its possible antioxidant, anti-estrogen and anti-atherogenic effects. Its main mechanism that brought the ingredient to MyoTEST revolves around its ability to modulate positive (yes there are good and bad estrogens) estrogen metabolism. By hydroxylating the bad estrogen metabolites 16-alpha-hydroxyestrone & 4-hydroxyestrone into a benign pathway of (good) estrogen metabolites otherwise known as 2-hydroxyestrone, I3C keeps estrogen metabolism optimized and thus opens the flood gate to uninhibited testosterone formation. In addition, I3C also improves prostate function, enhances insulin sensitivity and may stimulate abdominal fat loss.


Cnidium Monnier (Osthole)

Cnidium Monnier, also known in the Chinese medicine as ?She Chuang Zi?, has a long history in the far-east as an herbal medicine that improves male sexual dysfunction. The constituent responsible for this effect is believed to be a coumarin compound found in Cnidium, called osthole. Osthole was found to help relax the corpus cavernosa of the penis by inhibiting the activity of cAMP and phosphodiesterases (PDE5) in a concentration-dependent manner, which can potentially help with blood flow in those with erectile dysfunction (similar to Icarrin thus providing the user an additive effect). Osthole?s secondary mechanism revolves around its Nitric Oxide releasing effects by increasing the production of cGMP which is the chief gate keeper from obtaining and sustaining a powerful erection.


Quercetin & Resveratrol (Japanese Knotweed)

Resveratrol is a phytoalexin produced naturally by several plants under attack of pathogens as a natural defense mechanism. As contained in MyoTEST, Resveratrol is produced through the extraction of Japanese Knotweed. Resveratrol is also found in the skin of red grapes and is a constituent of red wine, but apparently not in sufficient amounts to elicit a positive health promoting effect. Just like Resveratrol, Quercetin is found in red grapes, but unlike Resveratrol, Quercetin belongs to the class of polyphenolic compounds called flavonoids, which are plant pigments that give colors to flowers, fruits, vegetables, and herbs. Resveratrol is a powerful antioxidant, a factor to which its heart-protective effects are largely attributed. In laboratory studies, Resveratrol inhibits platelet aggregation (the process by which blood clots are formed) and lipid peroxidation, which is an important factor in the development of atherosclerosis. The lipids in question are those that are carried in the bloodstream by LDL (low-density lipoprotein, or ?bad cholesterol?), and their degradation by oxidizing agents such as free radicals facilitates their incorporation into artery-clogging plaque. Another interesting mechanism that brought Resveratrol to MyoTEST revolves around its ability to act as estrogen receptor antagonist. As such, the substance binds reversibly to the estrogen receptors, which in turn blocks the interaction with circulating estrogen hormones.

The end result is a dramatic surge in testosterone levels (in excess of 50%) to combat the attenuated estrogen signal created by Resveratrol. An easier way to look at this, imagine a thermostat that kicks in to start the header once the temperature falls below a certain threshold. This is what happens to Testosterone (surges) once the body senses the presence of Resveratrol. Resveratrol has one pitfall which concerns its bioavailability. Upon ingestion, Resveratrol is rapidly absorbed (at least 70%) by the gut, however, its bioavailability is only close to 3-5% owing its rapid conversion to two derivatives known as: sulfates and glucoronides. This is where Quercetin comes to the rescue. Three recent university studies point out- that combining Quercetin with Resveratrol inhibits sulfation & glucoronidation in the gut and liver; thus, improving Resveratrol?s bioavailability. However, large doses must be taken to elicit this effect as enzyme blocking is only partially effective. Fortunately, the amount contained in MyoTEST mimics the exact proportions in the aforementioned studies.

Eddie666 06-10-2010 07:19 AM

Myotest is the most advanced and potent Testosterone stack combining the purest, most potent form of 3,4-Divanyl (3,4-D5 for short) in combination with 5 equally potent compounds: Icarrin (IC), Osthole (OH), Quercetin (QC), Indole-3-Carbinol (I-3-C) and Resveratrol (RES-5), ever made available to the public. You might not know about 3,4-Divanyl, I-3-C, Icarin, Quercetin & Osthole yet, but this awesome combo elevates & liberates test, battles stress and controls estrogen to increase anabolic effects.

rocky86 22-11-2010 07:24 PM

ragazzi ma è normale che le caps del myotest,fanno una puzza allucinante?cosè il dyvanill?proprio forte è!

effect 20-01-2011 07:33 PM

Pareri da gente più esperta?

Wallace 20-01-2011 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da rocky86 (Scrivi 240597)
ragazzi ma è normale che le caps del myotest,fanno una puzza allucinante?cosè il dyvanill?proprio forte è!

Puzzano puzzano! È normale...;)

D. Ace 18-06-2011 07:09 PM

rianimo!

qualcuno si esprime sul prodotto?!

THEHUGE disse che l'unico prodotto con dosi serie di divanil è il t-bol, il resto è fuffa anzi, truffa, visto che li hanno sgamati....questo prodotto è uno di quelli?
sulle boards americane non se lo ****** più di tanto, vabbè si sa come sono gli americani, ma gli ingedienti, come detto sembrano buoni....divanil, dubbio, a parte...

LiborioAsahi 18-06-2011 08:53 PM

No, era la DS quella sgamata per il contenuto di divanil!
La SAN non è stata ancora cappellata.

D. Ace 18-06-2011 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da LiborioAsahi (Scrivi 293647)
No, era la DS quella sgamata per il contenuto di divanil!
La SAN non è stata ancora cappellata.

ah, quindi non era una presa di fondelli generale...mah, la san sembra seria chissà che si salvi

lupin III 18-06-2011 09:14 PM

Io preferisco questo:

Competitive Edge Labs PCT Assist 180 Capsules




180 Capsules Supplement FactsServing Size 3Capsules Servings
Per Container 60 Amount
Per Serving DVTrans Resveratrol (50%) 600mg **Quercetin (95%) 600mg **Indole 3 Carbinol 175mg **Horny Goat Weed (Standardized For 60% Incariin) 250mg **Coleus Forskohlii (10% Forskohlii) 100mg* **Piperine (95%) 20mg

lupin III 18-06-2011 09:16 PM

La marca la conosco poco perche' faceva e fa soprattutto proormoni et similia, ma la composizione del prodotto mi aggrada parecchio.

D. Ace 18-06-2011 09:18 PM

manca il divanil però...

lupin III 18-06-2011 09:24 PM

La composizione generale rimane piuttosto buona e soprattutto si conoscono le quantita' dei singoli ingredienti.
Odio i patent pending...

D. Ace 18-06-2011 09:36 PM

sì, quello sì...
mah, forse andrebbe potenziato con dell indole-3 a parte, perchè se quei 175 sono x 2 caps è basso... però è vero buon prodotto

D. Ace 18-06-2011 09:39 PM

l'ho visto sì x 2 caps...
cmq controlla Lup, perchè ho visto una formulazione diversa di quella che hai postato
Trans Resveratrol (50%) 500 mg **
Indole 3 Carbinol 175 mg **
Horny Goat Weed (Standardized for 40% Icariin) 250 mg **
Mucuna Pruriens SE (Precision Blended 95% & 20% Extracts) 250 mg **
Piperine (95%) 20 mg **


questa è quella che ho trovato :?

LiborioAsahi 18-06-2011 09:50 PM

Interessante.
Se ne trova anche una versione da 240 compresse a prezzo inferiore, mi è parso. Sai la differenza?

LiborioAsahi 18-06-2011 09:50 PM

Forse vi ho risposto con la mia domanda.

D. Ace 18-06-2011 09:53 PM

già....
credo che quello che ho postato sia un pò più caxxuto...
però non te lo regalano certo è...forse è per via della titolazione che la dymatize ignora, nevvero Lib?! :D

LiborioAsahi 18-06-2011 10:07 PM

Deve essere per quello :D

No, seriamente, è proprio un fattore che incide molto sul costo della materia prima, la concentrazione del principio attivo su un estratto naturale :cool:

mistersalvo 19-06-2011 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da lupin III (Scrivi 293662)
Io preferisco questo:

Competitive Edge Labs PCT Assist 180 Capsules




180 Capsules Supplement FactsServing Size 3Capsules Servings
Per Container 60 Amount
Per Serving DVTrans Resveratrol (50%) 600mg **Quercetin (95%) 600mg **Indole 3 Carbinol 175mg **Horny Goat Weed (Standardized For 60% Incariin) 250mg **Coleus Forskohlii (10% Forskohlii) 100mg* **Piperine (95%) 20mg

bel mix! considerando di tenerlo a 6 cap cioè a 2 serving ci faresti un mese bello tosto...

greatescape 19-06-2011 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da mistersalvo (Scrivi 293723)
bel mix! considerando di tenerlo a 6 cap cioè a 2 serving ci faresti un mese bello tosto...

il dosaggio infatti dura un mese ma è basso come coleus ed icariin

lupin III 19-06-2011 01:40 PM

In realta' il dosaggio di Icariin non e' malvagio, considerando che e' titolato al 60%, mentre il coleus e' proprio pochino...

LiborioAsahi 19-06-2011 01:44 PM

effettivamente almeno il coleus lo prenderei anche a parte!

mistersalvo 19-06-2011 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da LiborioAsahi (Scrivi 293764)
effettivamente almeno il coleus lo prenderei anche a parte!

già...ma diventa trp dispendioso cosi...

lupin III 19-06-2011 04:01 PM

Il coleus in polvere ha un costo abbordabilissimo ;)
In tutti i casi non esiste il prodotto perfetto gia' bello e confenzionato...
Questo e' interessante e ha un quantitativo di resveratrolo e di piperina che gia' vale il prezzo del biglietto.

D. Ace 19-06-2011 07:00 PM

Lup ma non sarebbe, stand alone, più efficace quella versione che ho postato io per via della mucuna?

greatescape 19-06-2011 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da D. Ace (Scrivi 293674)
l'ho visto sì x 2 caps...
cmq controlla Lup, perchè ho visto una formulazione diversa di quella che hai postato
Trans Resveratrol (50%) 500 mg **
Indole 3 Carbinol 175 mg **
Horny Goat Weed (Standardized for 40% Icariin) 250 mg **
Mucuna Pruriens SE (Precision Blended 95% & 20% Extracts) 250 mg **
Piperine (95%) 20 mg **


questa è quella che ho trovato :?

è il nuovo pct assist

ci manca solo il daa

ora poi ci sono anche i log del nuovo bioforge che almeno sembra il piu innovativo

c'e' anche il DOMINATE V2 BLACK! della bcs labs che sembra interessante ma se non fanno pagare la metà la vedo dura, dato che una confezione costa 50 dollari sul sito ufficiale e ne servono 2

D. Ace 19-06-2011 07:09 PM

come va il nuovo bioforge?!

cmq sto ii pct assist colo daa andrebbe alla gnade ma pure questo sta a 50 euro, stanno fuori

lupin III 19-06-2011 07:11 PM

Io non sono un fan della mucuna, ma in uno stack volto ad aumentare il testosterone puo' avere una sua razionalita'.
Quando infatti si cerca di aumentare il testosterone estrogeni e prolattina tendono ad innanzarsi.
Tuttavia stand alone credo che la mucuna sia una bran boiata, in quanto abbassamento eccessivo della prolattina significa fatalmente meno testosterone.
Inoltre alla dopa ci si assuefa presto...

lupin III 19-06-2011 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da D. Ace (Scrivi 293833)
come va il nuovo bioforge?!

cmq sto ii pct assist colo daa andrebbe alla gnade ma pure questo sta a 50 euro, stanno fuori

Si, 50 euro per due mesi...

D. Ace 19-06-2011 07:16 PM

boh, magari per la dopa alla lunga no. Ma un singolo ciclo + del daa credo che funzionerebbe senza maltrattare troppo la prolattina.
credo.

però i prezzi sono assurdi. Ho mandato una mail al negozio del predatore,chiedendo di inserire in catalogo l'indole-3-carbinolo della now foods...vediamo se lo mettono e a quanto

greatescape 19-06-2011 07:23 PM

mucuna aumenta lh

lupin III 19-06-2011 07:24 PM

Mi pare che gia' ne avessimo parlato...

lupin III 19-06-2011 07:24 PM

Rileggi lo studio che riguarda prolattina e testosterone...

greatescape 19-06-2011 07:25 PM

Mucuna pruriens improves male fertility by its act... [Fertil Steril. 2009] - PubMed result

lupin III 19-06-2011 07:30 PM

Si, e l'estratto a quanto e' standardizzato di L-Dopa?
Hanno misurato la prolattina prima di somministrare la mucuna?
Se fosse stata alta e' verisimile che il testo aumenti...

greatescape 19-06-2011 07:31 PM

ma un bello stack sarebbe un aumento del testo attraverso qualche prodotto, controllo degli estrogeni, cortisolo, prolattina, carnitina tartrato e acido arachidonico .... volendo si potrebbe aggiungere qualcosa come e-bol

chissa potendo fare un mix cosi ....

lupin III 19-06-2011 07:32 PM

Experientia 1984 Jan 15;40(1):88-9

Effects of bromocriptine on plasma testosterone and gonadotropin levels and testicular lipid fractions in adult rats.

Rao MR, Bartke A.

Bromocriptine treatment of adult male rats resulted in a decrease in testicular testosterone (T) content and a reduction in plasma T levels. This was accompanied by increase in testicular total lipids and cholesterol and depletion of testicular phospholipids.



Fertil Steril 1991 Feb;55(2):355-7

Effects of chronic bromocriptine-induced hypoprolactinemia on plasma testosterone responses to human chorionic gonadotropin stimulation in normal men.

Oseko F, Nakano A, Morikawa K, Endo J, Taniguchi A, Usui T.

Department of Medicine, Shimane Medical University, Japan.

To study the role played by normal levels of plasma prolactin (PRL) in the secretion of testosterone (T) in the testes, we induced hypoprolactinemia with a daily dose of 5 mg bromocriptine administered orally in five normal men 20 to 35 years of age for 8 weeks. The basal PRL, T, luteinizing hormone, follicle-stimulating hormone, and maximum responses of plasma T to human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) stimulation were measured every 2 weeks.Basal levels of plasma T were reduced in the 1st 2-week-long period of hypoprolactinemia. In the 4-week-long period of hypoprolactinemia, the maximal response of plasma T to hCG stimulation was significantly reduced. The findings suggest that normal levels of plasma PRL may play an important role in the secretion of T in the human testes in vivo.


Andrologia 1990 May-Jun;22(3):251-9

Effect of modulating endogenous prolactin secretion on testosterone production in the adult male bonnet monkey (Macaca radiata).

Rao AJ, Rani CS, Ravindranath N, Moudgal NR.

Department of Biochemistry, Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore.

Adult male bonnet monkeys maintained under regulated light: dark conditions exhibit a nycthemeral surge of testosterone. The present study attempts to determine the effect of administration of drugs that modulate prolactin levels like ergobromocriptine (EBC) and chlorpromazine (CPZ) on testosterone production.The injection of EBC, a known inhibitor of prolactin secretion, could abolish nocturnal testosterone surge irrespective of the drug being given at 8.00 or 17.00 h. Testosterone surge could likewise be inhibited by treating animals with CPZ, a potent stimulator of prolactin secretion. This suggests that alteration in endogenous prolactin level from the normal effects nycthemeral surges of testosterone. The in vivo responsiveness of the testes of monkeys injected either CPZ oder EBC to exogenous LH or LHRH stimulation was tested. While LH could completely override the CPZ induced inhibition in testosterone production it could only partially reverse the EBC effect.



Nippon Naibunpi Gakkai Zasshi 1985 Jun 20;61(6):701-9

The effects of bromocriptine on the pulsatile pattern and the circadian profile of gonadotropins and testosterone secretion in normal adult men

Aisaka K, Ogawa T, Mori H, Kigawa T.

To investigate the effects of bromocriptine on the secretion mechanism of pituitary gonadotropins and testosterone, 5 mg of bromocriptine was administered to five young adult men who were normal in their endocrinological states. Blood samplings were taken from two hours before until six hours after the administration every 15 min., and after that, blood samplings were continued until 21 hours every one hour by an intravenous indwelling catheter. Serum FSH, LH, prolactin and testosterone levels were determined by RIA, and the changes of the pulsatile patterns of FSH and LH, and the circadian profile of these hormones by the administration of bromocriptine were analysed. Serum prolactin levels decreased significantly (p less than 0.005) from two hours after the administration of bromocriptine and remained in a very low range until the end of the experiment. The basal levels of FSH showed a significant decrease from two to six hours after the administration (p less than 0.005). Also the basal levels of LH showed a significant decrease from two to six hours after the administration (p less than 0.005). However, the basal levels of serum FSH and LH did not show significant decreases after that until the end of the experiment. No significant change was observed in the amplitude or the frequency of the pulsatile patterns of FSH and LH until six hours after the administration of bromocriptine. The serum levels of testosterone were also significantly decreased from two to six hours after the administration (p less than 0.005), but they did not show a significant decrease after that until the end of the experiment.


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