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(#181)
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17-05-2010, 12:59 PM
visto che il nuovo bioforge è stato modificato, eliminando zinco e compagnia... si potrebbe integrare con zma per un effetto piu tangibile. però siamo sempre li c'è la fare il 7-metoxy ? (prossimamente su questi schermi ) |
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(#182)
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All the Truth Member
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17-05-2010, 01:00 PM
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(#183)
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All the Truth Member
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Data registrazione: Jun 2007
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17-05-2010, 01:03 PM
io uno stack con il nuovo bioforge lo avrei in mente solo che costa troppo dato che sarebbero un po' di prodotti da prendere insieme |
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(#184)
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17-05-2010, 01:40 PM
Personalmente io non amo molto quando aggiungono vitamine o sali minerali...invece l' aggiunta della vitamina D è un ottima cosa...perchè non è un antiossinade ma un pro-ormone che diventa 1,25 diidrossicolecalciferolo e stimola l' assorbimento di calcio nelle ossa.... |
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(#185)
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17-05-2010, 01:43 PM
Mi riferisco al nuovo bioforge v2... |
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(#186)
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17-05-2010, 02:00 PM
io ho trovato questo articolo sul Fadogia Agrestis PE Here are a couple of studies by Dr. Toyin Yakubu- he is a friend of mine from Nigeria who specializes in medicinal plant research at the University of Ilorin. I have talked to him about potentially importing the same extract used in the scientific studies, and we are currently working with the Nigerian government at the moment to try and make this happen. That being said, I have no idea of what Fadogia Agrestis PE is in terms of plant material (aerial, root, stem, etc.), or if the correct extraction methods dictated in Toyins' studies were even used. Assay/testing methods for Fadogia are underdeveloped at best- I included a study below for your perusal on assay methods used to identify several different glycosides in fadogia. They used NMR, some chemical extraction, and some MS, and in doing so, they isolated some active components. Unfortunately, in some plant species, there can be hundreds, if not thousands of actives, so this may or may not really tell us much, if anything. So, in reality, when you use a product with Fadogia Agrestis PE, it may be hit or miss, depending on the supplier..... Asian J Androl. 2005 Dec;7(4):399-404. Links Aphrodisiac potentials of the aqueous extract of Fadogia agrestis (Schweinf. Ex Hiern) stem in male albino rats.Yakubu MT, Akanji MA, Oladiji AT. Medicinal Plants Research Laboratory, Department of Biochemistry, University of Ilorin, PMB 1515, Ilorin, Nigeria. AIM: To evaluate the phytochemical constituents and the aphrodisiac potential of the aqueous extract of Fadogia agrestis (Rubiaceae) stem in male albino rats. METHODS: The aqueous stem extract of the plant was screened for phytochemical constituents. Male rats were orally dosed with 18 mg/kg, 50 mg/kg and 100 mg/kg body weight, respectively, of the extract at 24 h intervals and their sexual behavior parameters and serum testosterone concentration were evaluated at days 1, 3 and 5. RESULTS: Phytochemical screening revealed the presence of alkaloids and saponins while anthraquinones and flavonoids are weakly present. All the doses resulted in significant increase in mount frequency, intromission frequency and significantly prolonged the ejaculatory latency (P 0.05) and reduced mount and intromission latency (P 0.05). There was also a significant increase in serum testosterone concentrations in all the groups in a manner suggestive of dose-dependence (P 0.05). CONCLUSION: The aqueous extract of Fadogia agrestis stem increased the blood testosterone concentrations and this may be the mechanism responsible for its aphrodisiac effects and various masculine behaviors. It may be used to modify impaired sexual functions in animals, especially those arising from hypotestosteronemia. J Ethnopharmacol. 2008 Jan 17;115(2):288-92. Epub 2007 Oct 9. Links Effects of oral administration of aqueous extract of Fadogia agrestis (Schweinf. Ex Hiern) stem on some testicular function indices of male rats.Yakubu MT, Akanji MA, Oladiji AT. Medicinal Plants Research Laboratory, Department of Biochemistry, University of Ilorin, P.M.B. 1515 Ilorin, Nigeria. AIM OF THE STUDY: The effects of administration of aqueous extract of Fadogia agrestis (Schweinf. Ex Hiern) stem on some testicular function indices of male rats (Rattus norvegicus) and their recovery potentials for 10 days were investigated. MATERIALS AND METHODS: Rats were grouped into four: A, B, C and D where A (the control) received orally 1 ml of distilled water (the vehicle), B, C and D (the test groups) received orally on daily basis graded doses of 18, 50 and 100mg/kg body weight of the plant extract, respectively, for 28 days. RESULTS: Compared with the control, extract administration for 28 days at all the doses resulted in significant increase (P<0.05) in percentage testes-body weight ratio, testicular cholesterol, sialic acid, glycogen, acid phosphatase and gamma-glutamyl transferase activities while there was significant decrease (P<0.05) in the activities of testicular alkaline phosphatase, acid phosphatase, glutamate dehydrogenase and concentrations of protein. Recoveries were made by the animals on some of the testicular function indices mainly at 18 mg/kg body weight. CONCLUSIONS: The alterations brought about by the aqueous extract of Fadogia agrestis stem are indications of adverse effects on the male rat testicular function and this may adversely affect the functional capacities of the testes. The recovery made at the dose of 18 mg/kg body weight as used in folklore medicine suggests that it does not exhibit permanent toxicity at this dose. Phytochemistry. 2008 Feb;69(3):805-11. Epub 2007 Nov 7. Links Monoterpene glycosides isolated from Fadogia agrestis.Anero R, Díaz-Lanza A, Ollivier E, Baghdikian B, Balansard G, Bernabé M. Departamento de Farmacognosia, Facultad de Farmacia, Universidad de Alcalá de Henares, Carretera Madrid-Barcelona, Km-33,600, 28871 Alcalá de Henares, Madrid, Spain. Six monoterpene glycosides were isolated from Fadogia agrestis. Their structures were elucidated using a combination of mass spectroscopy, 1D- and 2D-homo- and hetero-NMR spectroscopy and chemical analysis, and established as being derivatives of 2,6-dimethyl-2(E),6(Z)-octadiene-1,8-diol containing from two to four units of rhamnopyranose and, three of them, one or two additional units of glucopyranose. In three of the compounds an acyl group of 8-hydroxy-2,6-dimethyl-2(E),6(Z)-octadienoyl was found esterifying the O-2 position of one of the units of rhamnopyranose. |
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(#187)
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17-05-2010, 04:41 PM
Il 7-MF è notinficato in italia ? Mi chiedo se ora che tutto è naturale ci sia la possibilità che questi prodotti siano venduti anche in italia... |
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(#188)
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17-05-2010, 04:55 PM
penso di no, come non l'ho era la versione precedente... |
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All the Truth Member
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Data registrazione: Jun 2007
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17-05-2010, 05:25 PM
anche i test booster sono naturali pero qualcuno non viene notificato |
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17-05-2010, 07:27 PM
secondo me è difficile ke legalizzino degli ai in italia vendibili come integratori... scusate mi viene in mente adesso, ma usando qualsiasi ai ke sia atd bromo 7mf ke sia, tutto quel testo in + (ke come sappiamo non può essere + convertito in estrogeni) non è ke x caso venga convertito in qualkos altro? cioè il corpo ke d x se cerca l' omoestasi si arrende e lascia quella mancanza di equilibrio generata dall AI..? non è ke viene tutto convertito ad esempio in DHT ke oltretutto meno anabolico e molto + androgeno del testo..? o se no in cos' altro..? |
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(#191)
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17-05-2010, 09:14 PM
Il testo in + viene usato dal corpo e x quello si ha aumento di forza e di massa...cmq THE HUGE mi ha detto che dal sito italiano vendono il Bioforge Pro Max...quello con il 7-MF x intenderci...io però non lo vedo sul sito... |
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(#192)
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17-05-2010, 09:36 PM
Forse la società lo ha notificato anche in italia ? Dopotutto non ha niente di illegale in italia...è solo una questione di spesa da parte della società x notificarlo... |
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All the Truth Member
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18-05-2010, 12:46 AM
il vecchio bioforge oramai è finito dovranno aggiornare il sito si trova solo quello nuovo ha fatto il soldout un po' ovunque |
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18-05-2010, 12:22 PM
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A quanto sembra biotivia ha certificato il prodotto anche per l' italia |
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18-05-2010, 12:27 PM
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